http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#d753cf5a-df5b-4745-b231-edf39ef6e505 "I've never classified Hip-Hop as belonging to only Blacks of coloured folks. That's more like basing the assumpition that Rock is totally an White thing." Is this in response to my saying that "intelligent" hip hop is often made by people of color? I wonder if what I said what somewhat miscontstrued. For the record, I do believe that good hip hop can be, and is, made by LOVERS OF HIP HOP, regardless of ethnicity, skin color, etc. Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:20:07 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#d753cf5a-df5b-4745-b231-edf39ef6e505 Mammut 2007-09-06T19:20:07Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#4d56a101-12e9-4d51-b690-02f140aed439 you Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:03:23 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#4d56a101-12e9-4d51-b690-02f140aed439 Dave Masucci 2007-09-06T19:03:23Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#14f325ce-c60a-4298-9094-7254769f7c16 Who you referring to, Dave? Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:44:23 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#14f325ce-c60a-4298-9094-7254769f7c16 philip 2007-09-06T18:44:23Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#e7f6693f-5973-40b1-9cc6-605b45deb650 werd! Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:36:11 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#e7f6693f-5973-40b1-9cc6-605b45deb650 Dave Masucci 2007-09-06T18:36:11Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#cad99653-f5fe-427e-8160-ecd3efa47165 I've never classified Hip-Hop as belonging to only Blacks of coloured folks. That's more like basing the assumpition that Rock is totally an White thing. Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:21:50 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#cad99653-f5fe-427e-8160-ecd3efa47165 philip 2007-09-06T18:21:50Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#6e2466d1-dde6-4d53-82d5-e3325c008049 1. great to see some discussion finally being sparked on this tribe - haven't seen it in a while 2. re: the term "white man hip hop" i think i understand the subgenre you speak of and i must say it is incredibly problematic and discriminatory to label it "white man hip hop." this tends to be hip hop with a message, usually commenting on politics, human rights, social constructs, even environmental and spiritual issues. it is SO fucked up to label "intelligent" hip hop as belonging to a white man, as this just perpetuates the same old classist, racist bullshit we've been putting up with for so long. if you take a moment to look at the people who are actually MAKING this music, they are by and large people of color. if this subgenre happens to appeal to white people more that gangsta rap, fantastic. but this by no means makes it hip hop for white people. if anything, it is hip hop for everybody, as it is concerned with the issues that affect us ALL. i hope you will consider this and maybe spark a discussion with the "they" who seem to tell you it is white man hip hop. Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:36:26 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#6e2466d1-dde6-4d53-82d5-e3325c008049 Mammut 2007-09-05T20:36:26Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#917c3138-c208-40ed-b4bc-20ab781bfb49 "white man hip hop" Never heard of such before. Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:06:48 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#917c3138-c208-40ed-b4bc-20ab781bfb49 philip 2007-09-05T12:06:48Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#12bb5311-ceb2-4cc8-83a0-833ec853a411 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9136395809153811319&q=vanilla+Ice&total=3265&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:53:19 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#12bb5311-ceb2-4cc8-83a0-833ec853a411 Dustin (El Guano) 2007-09-03T17:53:19Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#d20e1201-7205-4535-ba8f-179f21c90285 you would be surprised, out here in the Bay when you go to a show it's mostly white people. If you ask someone on the street if they know about Grouch, Del, Blackalicious, etc they have no idea. Yet they know yukmouth, Too Short and fity cent. The "White man hip hop" NEVER gets play on the major radio stations, no one cares or has heard it. Yet it is better, need less censorship to be playable to masses and has a stronger message. Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:13:17 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#d20e1201-7205-4535-ba8f-179f21c90285 * Gerry * 2007-09-03T15:13:17Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#d29a012c-af72-4625-a31a-0b14c8996495 Who are they? Certainly, you aren't speaking of the artists themselves. Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:29:01 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#d29a012c-af72-4625-a31a-0b14c8996495 Dave Masucci 2007-09-03T01:29:01Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#588988b3-7d5f-4a44-b43b-f581fa7772e7 Who are they? Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:24:45 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#588988b3-7d5f-4a44-b43b-f581fa7772e7 Dave Masucci 2007-09-03T01:24:45Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#1f59d862-e707-4c42-a351-c0707bf0b137 Too late for that! Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:24:27 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#1f59d862-e707-4c42-a351-c0707bf0b137 Dave Masucci 2007-09-03T01:24:27Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#0409a1be-73f6-432b-9c2d-2a683972c898 well thats what they tell me.... i personally try not to label my music. Mon, 03 Sep 2007 01:08:54 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#0409a1be-73f6-432b-9c2d-2a683972c898 genevieve. 2007-09-03T01:08:54Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#8ee06e14-d756-49eb-a3ab-0ce52f6321fe >> "white man hip hop" Ummmmmm, I beg your pardon?!?! This statement is SO WRONG on SO many levels. Sun, 02 Sep 2007 21:21:26 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#8ee06e14-d756-49eb-a3ab-0ce52f6321fe Dave Masucci 2007-09-02T21:21:26Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#addbde13-43ed-47b5-a17e-07a069f44f32 underground, emotive, lyrical, intelligent hip hop. also known as "white man hip hop" but whatever, its badass as fuck. Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:31:34 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#addbde13-43ed-47b5-a17e-07a069f44f32 genevieve. 2007-09-02T00:31:34Z http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#ada150b7-20fb-41fc-866e-76724f4f4935 So many genres to choose from, I'd like to know your two favourite. For me, it's Gansta Rap, and Political Rap. Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:34:48 GMT http://hiphop.tribe.net/thread/3626b5ee-aa3f-4537-82b0-1cbed216ee33#ada150b7-20fb-41fc-866e-76724f4f4935 philip 2007-09-01T18:34:48Z